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Numbers bear out Packers' dominance of rivals

Eric Goska, For USA TODAY NETWORK-Wisconsin12:08 p.m. CST December 17, 2016

(Photo: Jim Matthews/USA TODAY NETWORK-W)

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Against which team have the Packers had the most success in the past 25 years?

Odds are the Lions received another shout out. Their struggles against Green Bay, including a long run of futility in Wisconsin, have been well documented.

But the Bears deserve to be in this conversation. They are a close second, close enough that a case could be made that they, and not the Lions, deserve top billing.

A win Sunday by the Packers at Soldier Field would make that argument more compelling. The two rivals are set to clash in another late-season contest with playoff implications.

Those postseason possibilities belong to Green Bay (7-6). Chicago (3-10) can do nothing more than play spoiler.

Perennial losers from 1968-91, the Packers now are in their 25th season of a prosperous revival. Their regular-season record of 251-145-1 (.634) since 1992 is second only to New England’s 259-138 (.652).

Green Bay’s record against the Lions during that time is 36-13. Its mark against the Bears is 35-14.

Interestingly, the Packers have fared better in Chicago than at Lambeau Field. Their record in Illinois is 19-5; they are 15-9 at home.

The Packers have outscored Detroit by 339 points (1,279 to 940). They have outscored Chicago by 356 (1,201 to 845).

Green Bay has defeated the Lions by 10 or more points 20 times. It has done the same to the Bears on 23 occasions.

The Packers have swept their series with the Lions 11 times. They have swept the Bears 12 times.

Bears or Lions, Lions or Bears, it’s safe to say the Green and Gold is in the midst of quite a run against both teams over the last 25 years.

But let’s focus on the Bears. Just how successful has Green Bay been against its longtime rival?

 

Total the data from the last 49 regular-season meetings and it becomes clear the Packers have quite an edge. They have outperformed their Windy City neighbors in a number of categories.

Since 1992, the Packers have 982 first downs to 828 for the Bears. They have more total yards (17,397 to 14,348), and more yards rushing (5,733 to 5,165) and passing (11,664 to 9,183).

Quantity aside, Green Bay leads in a number of areas more reflective of the quality of their work. Their third-down conversion percentage is better (42.3 to 32.4), their average gain per offensive play is higher (5.6 to 4.8) and they have committed fewer turnovers (79 to 99).

But where Green Bay truly separates itself is in the passer game. While the Packers have enjoyed a quarter century of mastery at the position, the Bears have suffered through stretches of misery.

Two quarterbacks – Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers – have started against the Bears for Green Bay since 1992. Favre went 22-10 and Rodgers is 13-4.

Sixteen quarterbacks have started for the Bears. Jay Cutler (12) and Erik Kramer (five) are the only ones to have made more than four starts. Four others– Steve Walsh, Chad Hutchinson, Brian Griese and Brian Hoyer – were one-time starters.

Matt Barkley likely will become the 17th to open for the Bears on Sunday. He relieved Hoyer in the last game in the series, throwing 18 times and earning a passer rating of just 18.3.

Differences in passer ratings between the Packers and Bears have been dramatic. With Favre and Rodgers leading the way, Green Bay’s rating has been 91.97. Chicago’s has been 64.44.

That’s a difference of 27.53. It’s the largest gap in any NFL series over the last 25 years (minimum 30 regular-season meetings).

The Packers have compiled passer ratings of 100 or more 17 times. The Bears have managed five such ratings.

Green Bay has finished with a higher passer rating than Chicago 38 times. Its record in those games is 33-5.

The Packers (93) have thrown twice as many touchdown passes as have the Bears (46) in the series since 1992. Those 93 aerial scores would be the high in any series in the last 25 years except for the 96 that Green Bay has against the Vikings.

In the last quarter century, the Packers have more than made up for all the indignities they suffered at the hands of the Bears in the 1980s. A win Sunday would not only keep the team in the running for a playoff berth, it would cap an impressive run of success that hasn’t received its due.

Extra point

Because of their efforts against the Bears and others, the Packers have compiled the highest passer rating of any team since 1992. Their mark of 91.4 is more than three points ahead of the second-place Patriots at 88.0.

pro-football-reference.com was used as a source for this article.

Regular-season series

Overall: Chicago leads 93-92-6

At Soldier Field: Packers lead 24-19

Starting quarterbacks

Packers: Aaron Rodgers (87-45 overall; 13-4 vs. Chicago)

Bears: Matt Barkley (1-2; 0-0 vs. Green Bay)

Rating the series

Since 1992, rivalries with passer rating differentials of 15 or more points (minimum 30 meetings).

Diff.       Team(rating)        Team(rating)        Record

+27.6      Packers (92.0)       Bears (64.4)          35-14

+24.5      Packers (93.8)       Lions (69.3)          36-13

+22.1      Steelers (87.5)      Browns (65.4)       35-8

+19.6      Colts (100.2)         Texans (80.6)        23-7

+17.8      Seahawks (91.4)   49ers (73.6)          19-11

+17.7      Patriots (92.2)       Bills (74.5)           36-14

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I read a stat that really was amusing to me. In all time total points, there is only a one point difference, playoffs included. To me that is pretty amazing. 

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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#Packers LB Nick Perry (hand) & RB James Starks (concussion) did not travel & are downgraded to OUT for #GBvsCHI

 

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Corn Cob

Zach Zaidman retweeted
[Green Bay Packers]
2h2 hours ago
Green Bay Packers ‏@packers
#Packers LB Nick Perry (hand) & RB James Starks (concussion) did not travel & are downgraded to OUT for #GBvsCHI

 

Woohoo! Game is ours now!

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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The Green Bay Packers held quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of practice on both Wednesday and Thursday this week due to a calf injury he suffered in Week 14 against the Seattle Seahawks, but the Chicago Bears aren't exactly buying it.

“I have a funny story about Aaron Rodgers,” defensive end Akiem Hicks said. “[I’m with the Saints] in 2014 and he pulled his hamstring in the Superdome and then ran the ball in for a touchdown later in the game. I don’t put anything past the guy."

*****

Even though the former MVP is nursing his injury, Hicks knows the team has to be smart about how they approach him on Sunday at Soldier Field.

“I’m a logical guy,” Hicks said. “We all know Aaron Rodgers is one of the better quarterbacks in this league. He can throw on the run. He can sit in the pocket, take the hit, and deliver the ball. He has pretty much every intangible you can ask for in a quarterback. I think the best thing to do when you are playing a quarterback like that is not let him hold you back. You don’t let him get you offside with a snap count. You can’t play scared. You have to go in there and attack him–just like every quarterback in the league.”

The Packers have surrendered 26 sacks this season, 12th fewest in the NFL this season, but the Bears will have to rattled Rodgers on Sunday to force him to move around on his injured calf.

Chicago may not believe Rodgers' injury is as bad as it is made out to be, but either way, the Bears will need to capitalize on a less than 100 percent Rodgers Sunday afternoon.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bears-are-skeptical-of-aaron-rodgers-injury/

So what gives Geno? Rodgers just taking a break, or is he hurting? Floyd might be chomping at the bit to embarrass him again.

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Calbrooks

I read a stat that really was amusing to me. In all time total points, there is only a one point difference, playoffs included. To me that is pretty amazing. 

It is crazy.  After all those years only a 1 point differential.  And 1 game as well.  That's crazy.  Hopefully it's even tomorrow.  I do not want the Bears to ruin my Christmas.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Calbrooks

The Green Bay Packers held quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of practice on both Wednesday and Thursday this week due to a calf injury he suffered in Week 14 against the Seattle Seahawks, but the Chicago Bears aren't exactly buying it.

“I have a funny story about Aaron Rodgers,” defensive end Akiem Hicks said. “[I’m with the Saints] in 2014 and he pulled his hamstring in the Superdome and then ran the ball in for a touchdown later in the game. I don’t put anything past the guy."

*****

Even though the former MVP is nursing his injury, Hicks knows the team has to be smart about how they approach him on Sunday at Soldier Field.

“I’m a logical guy,” Hicks said. “We all know Aaron Rodgers is one of the better quarterbacks in this league. He can throw on the run. He can sit in the pocket, take the hit, and deliver the ball. He has pretty much every intangible you can ask for in a quarterback. I think the best thing to do when you are playing a quarterback like that is not let him hold you back. You don’t let him get you offside with a snap count. You can’t play scared. You have to go in there and attack him–just like every quarterback in the league.”

The Packers have surrendered 26 sacks this season, 12th fewest in the NFL this season, but the Bears will have to rattled Rodgers on Sunday to force him to move around on his injured calf.

Chicago may not believe Rodgers' injury is as bad as it is made out to be, but either way, the Bears will need to capitalize on a less than 100 percent Rodgers Sunday afternoon.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bears-are-skeptical-of-aaron-rodgers-injury/

So what gives Geno? Rodgers just taking a break, or is he hurting? Floyd might be chomping at the bit to embarrass him again.

He's hurting.  And Perry was our best pass rusher this season.  Packers will be using a WR to play RB tomorrow as well.  Injuries have hit them hard as usual.  sad

However, the Bears have also been hit hard.  I really think this will be a good, close, hard fought game.  As much as I'd like to be there, with those temps, I'm glad I won't be.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Geno

 

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Calbrooks

The Green Bay Packers held quarterback Aaron Rodgers out of practice on both Wednesday and Thursday this week due to a calf injury he suffered in Week 14 against the Seattle Seahawks, but the Chicago Bears aren't exactly buying it.

“I have a funny story about Aaron Rodgers,” defensive end Akiem Hicks said. “[I’m with the Saints] in 2014 and he pulled his hamstring in the Superdome and then ran the ball in for a touchdown later in the game. I don’t put anything past the guy."

*****

Even though the former MVP is nursing his injury, Hicks knows the team has to be smart about how they approach him on Sunday at Soldier Field.

“I’m a logical guy,” Hicks said. “We all know Aaron Rodgers is one of the better quarterbacks in this league. He can throw on the run. He can sit in the pocket, take the hit, and deliver the ball. He has pretty much every intangible you can ask for in a quarterback. I think the best thing to do when you are playing a quarterback like that is not let him hold you back. You don’t let him get you offside with a snap count. You can’t play scared. You have to go in there and attack him–just like every quarterback in the league.”

The Packers have surrendered 26 sacks this season, 12th fewest in the NFL this season, but the Bears will have to rattled Rodgers on Sunday to force him to move around on his injured calf.

Chicago may not believe Rodgers' injury is as bad as it is made out to be, but either way, the Bears will need to capitalize on a less than 100 percent Rodgers Sunday afternoon.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bears-are-skeptical-of-aaron-rodgers-injury/

So what gives Geno? Rodgers just taking a break, or is he hurting? Floyd might be chomping at the bit to embarrass him again.

He's hurting.  And Perry was our best pass rusher this season.  Packers will be using a WR to play RB tomorrow as well.  Injuries have hit them hard as usual.  sad

However, the Bears have also been hit hard.  I really think this will be a good, close, hard fought game.  As much as I'd like to be there, with those temps, I'm glad I won't be.

Yeah, I would happily be there if I could. But I am also happy that it is televised at home....

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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I hope it is so cold, that when Floyd sacks Rodgers he shatters into a Bazillion pieces.

Then on Monday the Parks Department can sweep up all the little pieces and sell them on E-Bay to all the weeping Packer fans!

Go Bears!

Bear Down!

***No coaching expertise required!***

Chicago Bears.......Under construction.

Year 3 of a 5 year re-build.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY The Shadow

I hope it is so cold, that when Floyd sacks Rodgers he shatters into a Bazillion pieces.

Then on Monday the Parks Department can sweep up all the little pieces and sell them on E-Bay to all the weeping Packer fans!

Go Bears!

Bear Down!

Chicago Parks department doesn't bother sweeping the field.  

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Brad Biggs ‏@BradBiggs
Also out today for #Bears: DBs Johnthan Banks, DeAndre Houston-Carson, OL Matt McCants and TE MyCole Pruitt.
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Brad Biggs ‏@BradBiggs
Headlining #Bears inactives today vs #Packers: WR Eddie Royal, CB Bryce Callahan & NT Eddie Goldman.

 

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