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I can't agree more JAB. Maybe he will be the one to break the pattern, but so far none of NEs cast offs have ever looked good on a new team.

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Kevin White made his appearance at locker-room clean-out day as a rehabilitating player for the second season in a row. A high ankle sprain and fractured fibula meant the team’s 2015 No. 7 pick missed all but four games a year after missing his entire rookie campaign.

He does expect this to be an easier rehab process. “I’ll be back just fine,” he said in his first time talking to reporters since the injury. “It won’t mess my game up at all.” White said he knew right away the ankle injury would be at least a month, and then had to receive the news of another serious leg injury. “I just couldn’t put a lot of pressure on it. Even that was hard for me to take,” he said. “Once I knew it would be over for the season, that was really hard. You bounce back.”

White has to be ready for another year in the spotlight with people doubting his durability. “It don’t bother me at all,” he said. “Just like people doubted me to get into the NFL. I made it happen, and I’ll make it happen again.”

QBs prefer to return: 

Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley will be free agents in March, though both expressed an interest in staying with the organization.

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Praise for Fangio: 

Considering the reports about Vic Fangio’s potentially tenuous relationship with John Fox, one of the defense’s captains spoke highly of his coordinator. “He meant a lot, just being a teacher and me being a student and him playing chess, not checkers on the field, so he’s a different defensive coordinator who brings different schemes and just a whole bunch of different things to the game,” said Pernell McPhee, who added that he expects Fangio back next season.

Dreaming of playoffs: 

Kyle Long described his desire to get to the postseason.

“I just know what this city’s like when the Bears win. And I had a taste of it my rookie year and I sniffed the playoffs and we lost by a close margin there. I want to get back to that. I want to go to the playoffs,” he said. “I want to have 10 wins before we get to the playoffs and have an opportunity to have home-field advantage.

“A frickin’ playoff game in Chicago — can you imagine that? Right now I know it’s not something that’s realistic, being 3-13 and we’re in the offseason, but these are things than when I lay my head on the pillow and that I think about and it keeps me up pretty late and that’s what’s going to get me through this process, because I know I’ll be able to run through that tunnel again.”

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2017/01/02/bears-notes-kevin-white-expects-an-easier-rehab-process-this-time-around/a7m8eql/

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I agree with this as well. Matt Barkley in that system would be just as good as Garapolo. It's smoke and mirrors.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY PGT34

I agree with this as well. Matt Barkley in that system would be just as good as Garapolo. It's smoke and mirrors.

That is the thing with NE, they have a great system that makes good players look great. Makes everything suspicious. They never lose on a trade.

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Bears Q&A:

Early in the season, before it became obvious, you reported that a scout told you Jordan Howard was the Bears’ best running back. But Dowell Loggains was just quoted saying he didn't recognize Howard's ability during the preseason. Isn't this an indication of a poor quality coaching staff? – Richard G., Tucson, Ariz.

There’s been far too much attention paid to this issue, in my opinion. Yes, a scout told me at the end of preseason that he believed Howard was the best running back on the roster and it was a matter of time until the Bears reached the same conclusion. The Bears got to Howard, maybe sooner than they would have when Jeremy Langford suffered a high ankle sprain in Week 2 against the Eagles. But I think everyone is overlooking the fact that every coach is going to be somewhat hesitant turning to a rookie running back because there are inevitably concerns about pass protection. A back can be dynamic with the ball in his hands, but if he’s a potential liability in pass protection, there’s going to be a concern the back will get the quarterback killed. That probably played a small factor in the Bears turning to Howard slowly. Reality is Howard got enough work to finish second in the NFL with 1,313 yards rushing. The bigger issue, in my opinion, is the team didn’t commit to the run enough in certain games. Also, keep in mind that some coaches are not the best scouts. Conversely, some scouts probably can’t coach. I’m not questioning Loggains’ judgment as a scout, just pointing out that he’s the offensive coordinator, not a pro scout. There were bigger issues with the ground game than this question, in my opinion.

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With depth at outside linebacker arguably better than at defensive line, could Lamarr Houston be an option to consider for the Bears at defensive end? -- @23kew92n

I kind of doubt Houston will be on the roster in 2017. Maybe I am wrong but he’s coming off his second torn ACL in three seasons and has missed 22 of 48 games since signing with the team. Houston has a $5.95 million base salary in 2017 and a $50,000 workout bonus. That makes the 29-year-old a candidate to be released after he’s healed from the ACL rehabilitation. I’d submit that the Bears need to add to their depth at outside linebacker as well. They have Leonard Floyd and veterans Willie Young and Pernell McPhee are facing potential offseason surgeries. Considering McPhee’s durability, they need some young blood to join the group and really need an upgrade over Sam Acho, in my opinion.

Any chance the Bears end up on “Hard Knocks?” -- @stevemco

Sure, there is always a chance the Bears could appear on HBO’s “Hard Knocks,” but I think the franchise would do anything it could to avoid being in the spotlight of the program. In 2013, NFL owners passed a resolution on the matter that exempts teams from appearing on the show. The Bears are one of eight teams that are not exempted. The factors:

The team has a first-year head coach. John Fox is entering Year 3 as head coach.
The team has made the playoffs in the last two seasons. The Bears have not been to the postseason since 2010.
The team appeared on “Hard Knocks” in the last decade. The Bears have never been featured on the program.

Unless a team volunteers for “Hard Knocks,” that leaves the following eight clubs the NFL could force to appear on the show: Bears, Buccaneers, Browns, Colts, Eagles, Ravens, Saints and Titans. The guess here is George McCaskey does not raise his hand for the Bears. I’m thinking if you want to get a look at training camp, you’re going to have to show up in Bourbonnais.

If the best available quarterback at No. 3 projects as only a marginal NFL starter, shouldn't the Bears look elsewhere? -- @ConradSomm

Makes sense to me. But we don’t know how the Bears are going to size up the quarterbacks yet.

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Will the Bears finally do something to give us a glimmer of hope? Or should I just forget about next year? -- @CityBuffPete

I think most folks have been relatively optimistic coming out of the offseason the last several years. Unfortunately, the additions and changes that have been made have not materialized in significant improvements in terms of wins and losses. The sense I get, and it’s still early, is that general manager Ryan Pace will be aggressive this offseason in a bid to upgrade the roster. I don’t know that it will make the Bears a playoff contender in 2017, but crazier things have happened. If the Bears get some key new additions and can develop the young talent on the roster, it’s fair to think they will be more competitive in close games next season. But sounds like you have to answer this question for yourself in terms of how interested you are in the coming season.

Ryan Pace has avoided the really big contracts thus far like the deals given to Janoris Jenkins and Josh Norman. Do you think that ends this offseason? -- @stephenclapp1

That’s certainly possible and the last time the Bears made a really big splash in free agency they signed Julius Peppers in 2010 and most would consider that addition a success. Peppers brought a new dimension to the defense and the Bears reached the NFC Championship Game that season. The Bears also sniffed around on defensive lineman Malik Jackson, who got a huge deal from the Jaguars. But the Bears need to sign the right player if they make a splash addition. You don’t throw around huge dollars to just do it or to appease your fan base. You do it to make a major improvement to the roster.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/blog/ct-bears-mailbag-nfl-draft-jay-cutler-20170110-story.html

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I'm sorry to see Drayton go. Under Dowell, he was part of a staff that was really making progress with the offense. The development of 5th round pick Howrard was nothing short of phenomenal. 

Those who try and somehow tie Drayton to Langford's lack of success miss the big picture. Drayton was there to find the best solutions in the running game, and he certainly did that. It would be like saying that Wade Wilson was unsuccessful as the QB coach in Dallas because even though Dak Prescott has been amazing, Wilson didn't develop Mark Sanchez. That's just absurd.

My only regret is that Ka'Deem "the dream" Carey never got the opportunity to display his talent. He was injured too often, which limited his chances to impress. 30 carries a year just isn't a large enough sample size to make a judgment. Hopefully, he stays healthy next season, and with Langford out of the way, he'll get his chance to prove he's a solid #2 back. However, I wouldn't blame the Bears if they moved on. They need players who are dependable.

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I'm sorry to see Drayton go. Under Dowell, he was part of a staff that was really making progress with the offense. The development of 5th round pick Howrard was nothing short of phenomenal. 

Those who try and somehow tie Drayton to Langford's lack of success miss the big picture. Drayton was there to find the best solutions in the running game, and he certainly did that. It would be like saying that Wade Wilson was unsuccessful as the QB coach in Dallas because even though Dak Prescott has been amazing, Wilson didn't develop Mark Sanchez. That's just absurd.

My only regret is that Ka'Deem "the dream" Carey never got the opportunity to display his talent. He was injured too often, which limited his chances to impress. 30 carries a year just isn't a large enough sample size to make a judgment. Hopefully, he stays healthy next season, and with Langford out of the way, he'll get his chance to prove he's a solid #2 back. However, I wouldn't blame the Bears if they moved on. They need players who are dependable.

LoL, those who notice that Langford and the damp dream were ahead of Howard on the depth chart until injury forced them to play him realize the hard cold truth, either Drayton or Loggains (or both) failed miserably in assessing the talent available to them and putting the best player on the field.  Comparing to Wade Wilson is absurd, Romo was playing great so of course Prescott was on the bench until he was injured.......... apples to oranges and an epic stretch.

......Mark Sanchez?  What?  The issue is putting the right guy on the field not developing them, and developing a journeyman QB makes no sense in the first place.  I honestly have no idea what point you were trying to make there.  

 

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Langford still sucking does not mean that he was not a good coach. Good coaches make good players better, average players good, but sometimes a bad player is just a bad player. I would be hesitant to lay fault at the feet of Drayton for Howard not being in the lineup sooner. I am sure Fox was not encouraging the move, and Loggains is proven to be oblivious. I wonder if the way the running game was treated this year has anything to do with his desire to quit.

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I agree with this as well. Matt Barkley in that system would be just as good as Garapolo. It's smoke and mirrors.

That is the thing with NE, they have a great system that makes good players look great. Makes everything suspicious. They never lose on a trade.

Because they never trade good players.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Calbrooks

 

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY PGT34

I agree with this as well. Matt Barkley in that system would be just as good as Garapolo. It's smoke and mirrors.

That is the thing with NE, they have a great system that makes good players look great. Makes everything suspicious. They never lose on a trade.

Because they never trade good players.

At least players that are still good.

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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