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Also somethng that never fails in Chicago....already whispers of a potential QB controversy in Chicago.....good gawd Chicago fans are so damn easy smh

Keep chugging that Kool-Aid Me! LOL cheeky

I am not making a QB controversy as much as i am saying our GM missed on this one.

I recommend you go watch the games from Mahomes, he looks real steady.

But.....there is always the possibility that the league figures him out and turns him into Deshaun Watson. I am just a bit salty because i wanted Mahomes out of that draft. Biscuit wasn't even on my radar. Maybe in the 3rd round I would have looked at him as he had a very limited college starting history. He seemed like a reach, while Mahomes looked like an NFL arm.

Tonight will tell us a lot. If Mitch dices and slices the Seahawks, which he should, and pulls out a solid, clear cut victory. We may have our QB. If he struggles against a team in rebuild mode that has no proven receivers outside of a 34 year old Marshall, we are in trouble. Seahawks D is in  a shambles and is totally exploitable.

By the way, there is no QB controversy in Chicago as there is no alternative to Mitch. They cannot trot out Daniel as he is a proven clipboard holder. Well he could start if the Bears can get the league to only have the Cheifs as opponents for the rest of the season.

wasnt talking about you brother, I have heard on blogs and some radio....even some show. Small talk for now but like clockwork "QB controversy in Chicago" makes such headlines ;)

BTW I have watched Mahomes all through the big 12 even when WVU with Kwit @ KW beat that ass ;)....only a matter of time before he is exposed....film my friend, film. speaking of Big 12 just wait until Grier hits the draft!

with that said he can make some plays and I dont doubt his abilities...it is Andy Reid we are talking about and I also wouldnt have been upset had we got him either, but we have Nagy, first year with our guy and I like him....give it a min.

And in all honesty I didnt think any QB that year was worth a first round. 

As for slicing and dicing tonight, which I agree should happen, lets keep in mind that Mahomes was put in an established system with a vet surrounding cast, (see how open those guys get) not making excuses but its true. My guess is that these teams also havent expected him to have such poise right out of the gate as well. Our whole offense including scheme is new. I dont see 5 TD's but I see crisp play and another step forward from our O.

IMO we are going to be very pleased at the progress come mid season

Mahomes played against WVU with a strained throwing shoulder... it was easily hie worst start of the season.  He's about to put up video game numbers this season and will have to because he's playing without a defense again.  Anyone who wasn't prepared for him being so poised did not really watch his college tape because it looks pretty much the same as his KC tape, he is Brett Favre with an understanding of offensive schemes... 

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Mitchell Trubisky makes positive steps, still work in progress

Like in Week 1’s loss to Green Bay, Trubisky enjoyed some good moments in Chicago’s 24-17 victory over Seattle. Trubisky played arguably his best football in the first quarter, when he thoroughly outplayed Seattle’s Russell Wilson, posting a quarterback rating of 131.0.

Trubisky finished the game 25-of-34 for 200 yards, two touchdown passes and 24 rushing yards, as the Bears clinched Nagy’s first NFL head-coaching win.

“I thought his footwork was better today, not as much eyes at the line of scrimmage,” Nagy said. “He made some good runs. Had a couple scrambles. He had that one in the first or second quarter. That was nice.

“So I'll be anxious to go back and check the tape out and see progression-wise where he's at. And sometimes they are going to get you with some of their blitzes where you're hot and you've got to throw hot, so it looks like you're throwing quick or you're not protected. This is going to be fun, it really is, and I'm excited for our future together. I'm excited for this offense to continue figuring out how we build this identity. I think hopefully you're going to see that each game is going to subtly get better and better and then ultimately in the end we are just really rolling.”

Nagy’s film study no doubt will reveal that Trubisky was also inconsistent at times.

The 24-year-old quarterback tossed a pair of interceptions, failed to connect on deep balls with several open receivers and -- at times -- seemed a little too eager to bolt from the pocket.

All correctable mistakes, to be sure, but the Bears need better consistency from their quarterback, especially in a division with Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins.

On the bright side, the Bears play winless Arizona in Week 3.

At some point, the Bears are going to need the offense to win them games .............The wait continues.

http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4708481/mitchell-trubisky-makes-positive-steps-still-work-in-progress

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY BamaBear09

 

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY me654

 

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY The Shadow

 

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY me654

Also somethng that never fails in Chicago....already whispers of a potential QB controversy in Chicago.....good gawd Chicago fans are so damn easy smh

Keep chugging that Kool-Aid Me! LOL cheeky

I am not making a QB controversy as much as i am saying our GM missed on this one.

I recommend you go watch the games from Mahomes, he looks real steady.

But.....there is always the possibility that the league figures him out and turns him into Deshaun Watson. I am just a bit salty because i wanted Mahomes out of that draft. Biscuit wasn't even on my radar. Maybe in the 3rd round I would have looked at him as he had a very limited college starting history. He seemed like a reach, while Mahomes looked like an NFL arm.

Tonight will tell us a lot. If Mitch dices and slices the Seahawks, which he should, and pulls out a solid, clear cut victory. We may have our QB. If he struggles against a team in rebuild mode that has no proven receivers outside of a 34 year old Marshall, we are in trouble. Seahawks D is in  a shambles and is totally exploitable.

By the way, there is no QB controversy in Chicago as there is no alternative to Mitch. They cannot trot out Daniel as he is a proven clipboard holder. Well he could start if the Bears can get the league to only have the Cheifs as opponents for the rest of the season.

wasnt talking about you brother, I have heard on blogs and some radio....even some show. Small talk for now but like clockwork "QB controversy in Chicago" makes such headlines ;)

BTW I have watched Mahomes all through the big 12 even when WVU with Kwit @ KW beat that ass ;)....only a matter of time before he is exposed....film my friend, film. speaking of Big 12 just wait until Grier hits the draft!

with that said he can make some plays and I dont doubt his abilities...it is Andy Reid we are talking about and I also wouldnt have been upset had we got him either, but we have Nagy, first year with our guy and I like him....give it a min.

And in all honesty I didnt think any QB that year was worth a first round. 

As for slicing and dicing tonight, which I agree should happen, lets keep in mind that Mahomes was put in an established system with a vet surrounding cast, (see how open those guys get) not making excuses but its true. My guess is that these teams also havent expected him to have such poise right out of the gate as well. Our whole offense including scheme is new. I dont see 5 TD's but I see crisp play and another step forward from our O.

IMO we are going to be very pleased at the progress come mid season

Mahomes played against WVU with a strained throwing shoulder... it was easily hie worst start of the season.  He's about to put up video game numbers this season and will have to because he's playing without a defense again.  Anyone who wasn't prepared for him being so poised did not really watch his college tape because it looks pretty much the same as his KC tape, he is Brett Favre with an understanding of offensive schemes... 

we shall see ;)

"Jay Cutler can throw a football and cut it through the elements as well as anyone out there. Arm talent immense, the upside you love it. The reason I'm critical is I wish I had it"-Trent Dilfer

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Unfair to expect Trubisky to copy Mahomes

The comparisons between Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes and Chicago Bears quarterback Mitch Trubisky have grown through the first two weeks of the 2018 regular season.

The signal-callers received plenty of hype throughout the summer months and they enter their second seasons. Mahomes, however, has exceeded expectations with 10 touchdowns passes through two games, while Trubisky remains a work in progress.

Bears first-year coach Matt Nagy possesses a unique perspective on the comparisons from his previous post as the Chiefs offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach. And Nagy pointed out during a Tuesday press conference that there is a large difference between the two quarterbacks within his offensive scheme.

"Well, what's fair to compare is you have one in Patrick, who has had a full year in this offense to understand it," Nagy told reporters, via the Bears' official website. "Now, regardless of playing it, he's had a full year -- more than a year -- to sit behind it and learn and understand and watch tape with those quarterbacks last year, and get to see all the talk, all the discussions of where you go to on this play and that play, whereas Mitchell hasn't had that.

"[Trubisky's] being forced into this thing right away, and so that's where these growing pains are going to occur. That's where -- I just want to make it clear to him and to everybody that if you're realistic about it, it does take a little bit of time and, in the meantime, as you saw last night, we have a defense that can help us out during this process. And so the sooner we get it and it starts clicking, then the better, but that's the difference between the two, and it's obviously neat to see Patrick doing so well right now."

Nagy's message of patience and stance on Mahomes' professional upbringing in Kansas City has merit, of course.

Trubisky, the second overall pick of the 2017 NFL Draft, has more playing experience given his 12 starts the past season, but he is now absorbing his second offensive scheme in as many years.

Mahomes, the 10th overall pick of the 2017 NFL Draft, had the benefit of using his rookie season to learn behind an established veteran in Alex Smith and the process has transitioned well.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000964057/article/nagy-unfair-to-expect-trubisky-to-copy-mahomes

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Unfortunate situation for 10 and bears fans overall. I’m not a biscuit fan, but not a hater either. No way for fans or media to know our defense would get a 52 shot in the arm this season. Now that we have it, we all see a window that we realize we could win big and often in... if we had a QB and coach who consistently manage an offense in the nfl. But when our last season started slipping away, which was never going to be great, most fans - myself included - wanted biscuit in there for the reps and nfl experience. We wanted that knowing it was going to be a learning process, and one that would likely have a coach who didn’t run run pass every series (no matter how fitting that could be now, ha!).     Should biscuit be playing at a higher level based on his draft number and the investment the bears placed him? Absolutely. His overall stats stink it up, just saying. Is it his fault that the climate has shifted from “play him now and often to just to get experience” to “win now or get sat for some guy not wearing orange and blue last September”? Probably not.   I can see both arguments - Pace’s qb evaluation and gamble hasn’t paid off and a game manager would have won the first game; and I also understand this is the nfl and charter team, so expectations are high and if you’re not the best option this upcoming Sunday, then that’s the way it is.   So my thoughts are that we are fortunate to have such an amazing defense in place - it is truly special and blast to watch - but biscuit and Nagy will lag behind the D’s progress, significantly for a while.  But looking at the roster and coach, the best ROI here in my opinion, is riding biscuit through a season with Nagy.  I don’t like it, it’s not sexy, but right now it seems like the most sustainable option. I just hope Nagy and biscuit can do Vic and company justice sooner than later. It’s gonna hurt real bad watching this D be held back to if they can’t.           Glad to be back, I’ve missed giving my bears two cents.   

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This is an interesting film breakdown of Biscuits pro's and cons so far:

Mitch Trubisky: A Compliment Sandwich

 

Join Me In The Conference Room

Sometimes, it almost seems like Chicago is cursed to have polarizing Quarterbacks for all eternity. Rex Grossman. Kyle Orton. Brian Hoyer. Jay Cutler. Mike Glennon (OK. Maybe not Glennon). And now, Mitch Trubisky. Half of Bears fans are remaining patient with the youngster, believing he’ll develop into a franchise QB with more experience. The other half believe he’s complete trash that is incapable of developing into a competent starter in the NFL. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

In light of that polarization, we’re going to have a quick look at his tape (and that of one Patrick Mahomes), and have an honest, yet delicate conversation using a management technique known as the Compliment Sandwich. For those unfamiliar, you offer a compliment, then a critique, and then another compliment. The goal, is to deliver criticism in a more palatable way, with the goal that it will be accepted more easily than straight criticism. And yes, I learn all my business etiquette from Family Guy. We don’t all have MBAs, ya know!

This is far from an exhaustive list, but hopefully we can take an objective look at his play, point out the good, point out the bad, and everyone can find some common ground. Or I’ll just piss off everyone equally. Honestly, that’s probably more likely. We’ll find out soon enough.

(Follow Link for video breakdown)

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2018/9/22/17886024/chicago-bears-mitch-trubisky-a-compliment-sandwich-tape-review-humor-video

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Biscuit did  little to nothing to earn fans faith again in week 3.  Even my patience is being seriously tested at this point and I consider myself a very patient man.

The thing that worries me the most at this point is his accuracy.  He was so far off on his throws today I was holding my breath every time he dropped back to pass.  His decision making wasn't much better, and when you add those two things together it spells trouble.  I'll be the first to give the Cardinals credit they did a very good job on both sides of the ball preparing for and taking advantage of the weaknesses they scouted on the Bears.  Biscuit I'm afraid, has a long way to go there is just no sugar coating it.  

His poise in the pocket was sketchy at best.

His accuracy was horrible.

His decision making was just bad and inconsistent.

I can't really come up with any positives from his play vs. the Cards.

Very frustrating.

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY PapaBear.OR

Biscuit did  little to nothing to earn fans faith again in week 3.  Even my patience is being seriously tested at this point and I consider myself a very patient man.

The thing that worries me the most at this point is his accuracy.  He was so far off on his throws today I was holding my breath every time he dropped back to pass.  His decision making wasn't much better, and when you add those two things together it spells trouble.  I'll be the first to give the Cardinals credit they did a very good job on both sides of the ball preparing for and taking advantage of the weaknesses they scouted on the Bears.  Biscuit I'm afraid, has a long way to go there is just no sugar coating it.  

His poise in the pocket was sketchy at best.

His accuracy was horrible.

His decision making was just bad and inconsistent.

I can't really come up with any positives from his play vs. the Cards.

Very frustrating.

I thought he regressed today too, as far as holding the ball way too long!  Not open, throw it away!

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY Corn Cob

 

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY PapaBear.OR

Biscuit did  little to nothing to earn fans faith again in week 3.  Even my patience is being seriously tested at this point and I consider myself a very patient man.

The thing that worries me the most at this point is his accuracy.  He was so far off on his throws today I was holding my breath every time he dropped back to pass.  His decision making wasn't much better, and when you add those two things together it spells trouble.  I'll be the first to give the Cardinals credit they did a very good job on both sides of the ball preparing for and taking advantage of the weaknesses they scouted on the Bears.  Biscuit I'm afraid, has a long way to go there is just no sugar coating it.  

His poise in the pocket was sketchy at best.

His accuracy was horrible.

His decision making was just bad and inconsistent.

I can't really come up with any positives from his play vs. the Cards.

Very frustrating.

I thought he regressed today too, as far as holding the ball way too long!  Not open, throw it away!

24 of 35 passing attempts for 220 yards without a touchdown and one interception, ending the game with a 73.5 quarterback rating.

That is ugly:

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Whelp... I have been trying to stay positive but I am pretty sure we’ve seen what we got... he’s an athletic guy who can be accurate if his mechanics stay clean but he seems to have broken his confidence and his mechanics are completely out of whack... maybe the bye week can help him get back but I really think his lack of college games is hurting him now... too bad we have to play one of the hottest offenses in the NFL before we get to the bye... maybe we’ll get lucky and the defense can score some points... hopefully Fitzmagic runs out this week...

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